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#208188 - 09/25/20 08:15 PM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: DarkTimber]
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I think it meets a shorter case restriction of the state hes in......1.4????

Otherwise, for 200 yrd deer, id take a 30-30 Ackley improved x10. super contender cartridge imo, along with 7-30 waters. I like the multiple bullet choices in .308? for the 30 for my pick though.
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#208189 - 09/25/20 08:36 PM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: DarkTimber]
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 Originally Posted By: DarkTimber
I've been watching this post with great interest.

Having almost no experience with single shot pistols, I'm curious, what advantage does the .300 BO provide that the .30-30 or .30-30 AI don't?


In his case, the Blackout is a legal cartridge in his state, but the 30-30 is not.
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#208191 - 09/25/20 09:09 PM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: Squints08]
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 Originally Posted By: Squints08
I am seeking advice on what I would like to be my ultimate large game hunting handgun but it has to be legal to hunt with in Illinois ... .30 caliber or larger with a case length not exceeding 1.4 inches


Where's my sign!


Move along folks, nothing to see here.

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#208192 - 09/25/20 10:57 PM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: DarkTimber]
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 Originally Posted By: DarkTimber
what advantage does the .300 BO provide that the .30-30 or .30-30 AI don't?

Purely legality. 30-30 AI sounds like like an optimal setup to me. Works with factory ammo and plentiful brass and a little extra powder. If i hadn't found the 300bo specific barnes bullets I would likely be shooting one. As it is, I dont have a need for the increased performance for deer.

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#208193 - 09/26/20 08:57 AM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: karl]
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In a Contender or G-2 I would go with either the 7x30 Waters or the 30-30AI for deer sized game (As long as they are legal for the state you are hunting in).

Squints,
There is nothing wrong with getting both frames.
If money is a concern, get the 300 BO in the Encore frame, so you can have your 460 as well. A good solid-bottom brake works even on a 460.
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#208194 - 09/26/20 09:31 AM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: Ernie]
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Have you given any thought to what scope you'd like on it?
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#208195 - 09/26/20 09:55 AM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: Ernie]
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I am well supplied with Single Shots, and barrels.
I have a couple 357 Maximums, they would work well for your situation, however with you not reloading the 357 Max is not a good choice. You really need to reload to own a 357 Maximum.

The choice between Contender G2 or Encore/Pro Hunter. Several considerations. With a G2 you can purchase a 22 LR barrel for Cheap Trigger Time. I cannot imagine not owning a 22 LR barrel for Practice/Trigger Time. The 300BO would work fine on a G2 frame, and be a good choice for deer in your state.

The Encore platform is Heavy. I must not consider this a big problem "stand hunting" as I have three frames, and four Encore barrels.
With the Encore you could really bring the 460 to life. You have Elk on the Plate. I am guessing you do not plan to hunt Elk in the Peoples Republic. Hunting out West you could get the Encore chambered in several different chambering's that are flat shooting and hard hitting. I would have MGM Thread and Time it for a Four Gill Muzzle Brake to make shooting a hard hitter fun.

After all of my ramblings I am suggesting you get a G2 with a 22 LR and 300 Blackout barrel for your home state. If you are going out West pick up an Encore in a hard hitting chambering.

As a long time Contender/Encore/Scout shooter I would suggest you get with Tony (Tony's Stocks and Forends) and have him make you a 10" or 11" Forend. With factory synthetic grip I would go with Ebony for the color. His forends are a huge improvement over factory. I have a hard time believing someone at TC or S&W has not figured out over the years that the Handgun really would work better with a Carbine Forend.

Good Luck Bob R
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#208196 - 09/26/20 10:23 AM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: Bob Roach]
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Bob Roach must be a mind reader. A G2 Contender in 22lr and 300 BO is exactly my current plan to start with. I love squirrel hunting and a match barrel in 22lr would be very nice for that. In terms of optics, I'm thinking a Leupold VX3 handgun scope on the 300 BO. I do have a Bushnell Trophy handgun scope in the basement waiting to be used too. Have any other thoughts or suggestions please send them my way. Thanks.

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#208197 - 09/26/20 01:35 PM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: Squints08]
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They've been discontinued, but I'm partial to the Nikon Force XR variable. If you happen find one for sale, even if it's used, it's well worth it in my opinion.

I don't think the Blackout will truly warrant it, but go with a steel base and steel scope rings, not aluminum. Our handguns are much harder on scope mounts than rifles, and several members here have had issues with their mounting systems. MGM's steel bases are rock solid, as are Warne bases and rings. Again, the Blackout might not recoil enough to cause problems, but it never hurts to have insurance. If you ever do a 460 build, it definitely will require steel mounts, along with 3 or 4 scope rings.
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#208200 - 09/28/20 08:40 AM Re: Introduction and next hunting handgun help [Re: Squints08]
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 Originally Posted By: Squints08
Sounds like I need a 14 inch Contender for my 300 BO and a 15 inch Encore for my 460. Reflex264, is your 460 ported or have any kind of muzzle device?


One with and one without. I can take the recoil better than the noise. I just carry ear protection all the time now. My 460 suggestion was based on what you are already shooting. I have moved to the 30-06 and .260 in the encores. Neither of them have breaks or ports.
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