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#205230 - 01/25/20 09:18 AM Encore setup for open country Whitetail
billa
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I am thinking about putting together a low recoil, long range deer rig on an Encore frame that I can put a rifle scope on and hunt whitetail out to 350yards or so. I am thinking 6.5 Creedmoor or 260 Rem. but I wanted to get input from the forum. Anyone that has read my posts knows that most if my big game hunting is with the 358JDJ Contender or with revolvers. I was thinking about a flat shooting Contender barrel but If I am doing it I want the flattest shooter with good performance on deer I can get. I also want the heavier Encore for the lower recoil / rifle scope setup. What do you think?
Also I am not a big fan of brakes as I will probably use this gun in a box blind at times. I will brake if I must but would rather not.
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#205231 - 01/25/20 02:01 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: billa]
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The biggest advantage of the Creedmoor is that its length fits short action rifles. The Encore has no such restriction, so I recommend the .260. Slightly more case capacity, a proven history of long range accuracy, and easy to find (or make) cases. Your choice, but I know which one I?d build.



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#205232 - 01/25/20 02:32 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: Carpe Diem]
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Thanks for the feedback on the 260. It seems like a good low recoil option. I am open to other cartridges if members have thoughts.
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#205233 - 01/25/20 02:45 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: billa]
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CANNOT COMMENT ON CALIBER BUT CAN RECOMMEND THE FAERBER 4 PORT QUADPORT BY MAG-NA-PORT, VERY HELPFUL.
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#205234 - 01/25/20 02:51 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: billa]
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I got a CVA Scout 6.5 Creedmoor pistol for Christmas. I did put a brake on it and 2.5 x 8 Weaver pistol scope on it. I have not been able to shoot it longer than fifty yards yet but it will shoot three shot groups at that range that a dime will cover. I did kill a doe with it the last day of the season and it really did a number on her with Winchester 125 grain Deer Season XP but the shot was only fifty yards.
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#205235 - 01/25/20 03:09 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: Carpe Diem]
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There are a lot of options and a few considerations to think about. Do you ever see yourself wanting to shoot farther for hunting or play? What types of bullets? light for speed and flatness or heavy for longer range or the option for both? Would you want to always shoot handloads, or do you want the option of picking up some factory loads if needed.

For deer at 350yds, a 6.5 caliber should work very well with pistol speeds and most hunting bullet choices. You aren't really stretching the legs of the high BC bullets you can get in 6.5 so you can launch them slower, and give up a little of the flatness for reduced recoil if needed.

For what it's worth, I looked at Mid-way's list of ammo and found 70 for the 6.5 CM, 23 for the 260 and 18 for the 6.5x55. I load my own, but I take comfort in knowing there are options at the corner store if I need.

The 6.5cm has a lot of hype that drives many away. As someone who also shoots and reloads a lot of 25-06, I feel the biggest advantage is the prevalence of high BC 6.5 bullets and fast twist barrels. With the long-range focus comes the added benefit to pistol shooters of lower terminal velocity requirements for many of the popular 6.5 bullets. For example, the Barnes 127gn LRX for the 6.5 is reported to have 2x expansion down to velocities of 1600 fps with a BC of 0.468. Most traditional hunting bullets have 1800-1900 minimum velocity requirements. Even the Nosler BTs are up in that range.

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#205236 - 01/25/20 03:57 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: karl]
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Karl,
My priority is a 200yard plus hunting rig for Deer size game. Probably varmints at times although I have a 223 Contender with 4x12 scope that I have taken groundhogs and 2 doe Antelope out to 400 yards with.
Like the following:
-Reliable on Deer to 350 yards - or further...
-15 inch barrel
-Rifle scope 4x12 or perhaps higher mag.
-Recoil allowing rifle scope use with no brake if possible.
-I will hand load but easy to obtain cases preferred - factory ammo option a plus
-I like long for diameter bullet. - I want a good game bullet. Considered 7mm 08 but thought the 260 or 6.5 better in a handgun. Looking for advice here.
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#205237 - 01/25/20 04:51 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: REDHAWK1954]
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I would possibly consider a CVA Scout 6.5. The entire gun is the price of a TC barrel. I have a Scout muzzleloader and it shoots well. If one comes my way I might jump on a deal. Who else has one?
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#205238 - 01/25/20 06:24 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: billa]
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Last few years I've had a big surprise with one particular gun- 6mmAI Encore. Used it in ID for rockchucks-longest shot 412 yds, AZ-55# javelina-177 yds., WV hundreds of groundhogs, deer from 175 to 400 yds. None of these animals moved.
Mine is unported, recoil is minimal, accuracy supreme with 70, 80 gr. BTs, 85 gr. NPTs.
I'm a big 6.5/.284 fan, but the 6mm has opened my eyes. I don't feel undergunned for any of the above animals. A very pleasant surprise.

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#205239 - 01/25/20 07:24 PM Re: Encore setup for open country Whitetail [Re: wvhitman]
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Any of of the short action cartridges based on the 308 Win, 300 Savage, or Creed in 6mm, 25, 6.5, 7mm or 30 cal will easily do what you want
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