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#203148 - 11/04/19 01:30 PM Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast
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Any thoughts on monolithic bullets vs. hard cast?

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#203153 - 11/04/19 02:19 PM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: TM]
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 Originally Posted By: TM
Any thoughts on monolithic bullets vs. hard cast?


Yes.


I would search the archives as we have "discussed" this rather thoroughly. My personal opinion is that if you are hunting something really big and you need maximum penetration, monolithic flat-nosed solids are your friends as they will not distort when they contact heavy bone and will stay the course and go deep.
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#203160 - 11/04/19 04:37 PM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: Whitworth]
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NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE, IF YOU WANT BULLET INTEGRITY AND PENETRATION, GO MONOLITHIC, OR GO WITH A BARNES BUSTER, OR A PUNCH BULLET. IMHO, "HARD CAST", WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, IS MORE MYTH THAN REALITY.
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#203183 - 11/04/19 09:09 PM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: 45MAN]
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TM, you're trying to make me look bad! If you're hunting north america cast bullets will take care of you just fine. If you go over seas you need a better bullet if your eyes get big. Cast bullets can't keep up when a megatron steps out of the bushes.
Many compound the problem by going with hard cast bullets & then driving them at hyper velocities, they have no chance then. Go a bit softer & a bit slower & your success rate will climb dramatically. Score is 2-1.

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#203201 - 11/04/19 10:49 PM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: sixshot]
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If its big and hairy and can rip your head off or stomp you into a muddy spot solids make sense for penetration from any angle. For most game in the states a good cast not run to hard,or a premium sp or hp will work.
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#203203 - 11/05/19 12:30 AM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: junebug]
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What about the Lehigh Extreme Penetrator bullets? I have never tried them, but they say its the best of both worlds. You get a non deforming, deep penetrating bullet that because of its shape up front, creates a wound channel more like an expanding bullet. They are all brass or copper.

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#203204 - 11/05/19 12:45 AM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: junebug]
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Tom, Its pretty impressive list with what a handgun hunter can choose today with all the different types and maker`s of bullets... Match the bullet to the game your hunting, with accuracy and bullet placement being number one. A little research on your part will let you know what works with what game animals... Best of luck.
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#203223 - 11/05/19 12:15 PM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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I know I always lose these arguments but I have very few bullets in my bullet box. And in the end I'm going to remind you about some people raving on Phil Shoemaker torching that big Alaskan Brown bear with his mighty 9mm with a big 147 gr cast bullet.

Dick

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#203225 - 11/05/19 12:46 PM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: sixshot]
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six... He was real lucky with that
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#203227 - 11/05/19 12:54 PM Re: Copper and Brass vs Hard Cast [Re: sixshot]
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 Originally Posted By: sixshot
I know I always lose these arguments but I have very few bullets in my bullet box. And in the end I'm going to remind you about some people raving on Phil Shoemaker torching that big Alaskan Brown bear with his mighty 9mm with a big 147 gr cast bullet.

Dick


LOL! Had the bear actually been charging him, I think he would have wanted something a whole lot bigger in his hands!
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