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#178228 - 01/24/17 08:01 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: AK hgunner1]
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 Originally Posted By: AK hgunner1
Agree with junebug.

Leave the bigger stuff to the younger guys.


Yep, I agree too. I got nothing left to prove, and can get done get what I need done with a little more fun and a little less pain.
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#178269 - 01/25/17 06:35 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: briarhopper]
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got careless with my 454, shooting on one knee, and it wacked a good shot in the head
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#178271 - 01/25/17 06:56 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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When you are younger or have good hands,wrist's and elbows you can build up a tolerance to heavy recoil. As I get older and arthritis and injury take there toll I find I have considerably less tolerance to recoil.With my heavy kickers group size starts to grow after 10 or 12 rounds so I shoot something smaller for awhile.
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#178272 - 01/25/17 07:16 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: junebug]
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Like junebug I shoot the lighter stuff (you guessed it,.357) and only the heavier when I have too.
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#178276 - 01/25/17 08:46 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: AK hgunner1]
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I prefer to think I'm just getting smarter, not older
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#178956 - 02/19/17 08:37 AM Re: RECOIL [Re: AK hgunner1]
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Recoil is governed by Newtonian Mechanics. Ok, for the non-engineers out there: What goes out one end also goes out the other, equalized for the size difference between the firearm and its projectile.

Various nifty recoil functions available over the web will take care of the math, so just go with me a bit.

Faster, higher velocity but smaller projectile may have the same, on paper, recoil as slower, lower velocity but bigger projectile (bullet) and you perceive that the recoil of one is worse for you than the other even though they are the same on paper.

Higher recoil velocity stings, larger projectile smacks more. Kind of the way I perceive it, you may be and probably are different.

I think this is why 1200 fps with larger projectiles is a popular velocity for really large bore guns, works for me. I notice only slight differences in comfort between my Redhawk 45 Colt (3lbs 2oz ) and my SRH 454 (4lbs. 4oz. ): (265gr at 1200 recoil = 1.82, V= 18.74 Free Energy = 17,05) vs.(a 240gr at 1750fps recoil= 2.54, V=19.25, Free Energy = 24.46). The bullets are about the same, velocity huge change. But from a practical stand point not really that different in killing effect, mostly a factor of how far down range and ease of trajectory compensation, big issue for me.

Absolutely worse, nastiest recoil I've ever experienced, rifle; 375 Wheatherby, various way too light shotguns, prefer less than 1oz loads in 12ga. not a big water fowler...

Handgun: Ruger LCR in 357 mag with 180gr full power loads. 1,yes, one pound 4oz loaded weapon vs. a 180gr at 1100fps. Recoil = 1.11, V= 28.57 Free Energy = 15.84. NOTE the BIG difference in recoil Velocity form the other weapons I mention. Small handgrip, barely two fingers for me concentrates a lot of "sting" in a small area. Another reason grips are so very important to me, I have large hands and everyone's are different. Stings like absolute hell to me, only managed 4 out of 5 shot attempt before calling it quits. Regularly shoot 50 rounds plus of 250gr. at 1000 and 25 of 265gr and 10 to 15 at 1750fps with no problems. Prefer multiple trips to the range, 10 minutes from my house to long sections beating my hands to death, have old injuries that would be exacerbated by too much fun.
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#178963 - 02/19/17 03:32 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: PAUL TUNKIS]
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I'm helping a young man do some load development for an 8.5 pound 460 Van Horn (460 Weatherby shortened to fit a standard action). He is on his way to becoming a guide and will use it for his bear gun to back up clients or iron the wrinkles out of bad situations. From standing he handles the recoil well, as do I, but I have to say it's all I want to handle and only in limited doses. From the bench it takes a sissy bag to make it manageable.

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#178965 - 02/19/17 05:13 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: mart]
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That sounds like pure pain shooting that caliber.....
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#179003 - 02/20/17 04:55 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: AK hgunner1]
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We all have a different recoil tolerance & body size really doesn't have anything to do with it, but age can. I had one of the early FA 475's & it was a Tiger, I've also had a full house 458 Win. mag in a 14" braked Encore. I've shot one of the 500 Linebaugh's & did quite a bit of test work with the first 416 Lockhart (416 bullet & 350 magnum case) can't say any of these guns were fun, & it actually takes a lot of concentration to shoot one accurately while it's easing past your left ear!
I don't care for it anymore & handing one to a new shooter should absolutely be out of the question but some people do it just for a laugh....that's not funny!
Be very careful with recoil, it can be a game breaker for many & very hard to work out of. My heavy 44's, 45's & 480 is all I need now days, other guys are much tougher.

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#179508 - 03/17/17 05:24 PM Re: RECOIL [Re: sixshot]
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I had a 10 inch 44 Mag and 325 gr cast bullets behind stout load of H100
was very nasty to shoot!

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