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#173475 - 09/29/16 08:18 AM Re: Encore Descision [Re: Handgunner400]
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Is it legal to make an Encore rifle into a pistol? I always understood you could go from pistol to rifle and back, but if it were sold as a rifle it could not be converted to a pistol legally. I don't know, just asking.

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#173477 - 09/29/16 08:55 AM Re: Encore Descision [Re: bjlatt]
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We've discussed this before, and I think the answer is they're all pistol frames and are sold as such, regardless of which configuration it was made into.

Edit: I took this question directly to Smith & Wesson last year, so I went back through my email inbox to find it. This was their reply, shortened: "... left as a rifle in 209x50 rifle configuration, but they both will be considered pistols per the ATF since they can become pistols."


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#173481 - 09/29/16 09:25 AM Re: Encore Descision [Re: Chance Weldon]
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Yup, they are legal. I printed out the page that has the legalities on it from the feds. I'll find it in my file and post it on here. Figured it was a good thing to keep around.

Just a peace of mind thing for me to have it on file.
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#173484 - 09/29/16 10:52 AM Re: Encore Descision [Re: bjlatt]
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 Originally Posted By: bjlatt
Is it legal to make an Encore rifle into a pistol? I always understood you could go from pistol to rifle and back, but if it were sold as a rifle it could not be converted to a pistol legally. I don't know, just asking.


There is still a lot of gray area there so I will not be one to convert a rifle into a pistol. I don't think a person has ever been convicted for doing such, even before the recent "clarification" by the ATF but there are plenty of pistols around so I will not test the waters. As I read the "clarification" it indicated to me that a T/C can be converted to a rifle and back as long as it started as a pistol. Not gonna argue about it, just stating my opinion.
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#173496 - 09/29/16 02:14 PM Re: Encore Descision [Re: s4s4u]
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Thank you for the replies. I've considered an Encore rifle purchase, but stopped because I wanted an pistol and did not want to run into legal complications.

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#173499 - 09/29/16 04:16 PM Re: Encore Descision [Re: bjlatt]
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I bought a new weather shield receiver rifle stock set and a Contender stainless receiver pistol stock set this summer and both of mine where just registered as receivers. It didn't say a thing about which stocks come with them.

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#173517 - 09/29/16 11:54 PM Re: Encore Descision [Re: WPrather]
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I think you'll be fine unless you put a sub-16" barrel on a frame with a rifle stock.
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#173583 - 10/02/16 08:27 PM Re: Encore Descision [Re: Chance Weldon]
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This is a matter of interpretation and all the research just confuses it even more. Go Mike Bellim page they have some very interesting facts. in the end I have two frames they are handguns and were purchased that way I will buy another frame that will be dedicated to the rifle task. Switching back and forth may get you into trouble and the water is muddy enough who would leave the choice to a ill informed beauracracy or liberal judge or prosecutor?
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#173640 - 10/05/16 10:08 AM Re: Encore Descision [Re: Ramjet-SS]
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I've got a 12" .223 barrel I could be talked into selling if your interested.
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#174605 - 10/28/16 04:28 PM Re: Encore Descision [Re: Spencer]
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All spoken of are excellent choices, especially if you are loading your own. I shoot a 13" MGM 358 winchester w a 2" brake
pushing a 200 gr Hornady FTX just a bit over 2000 fps chronographed very pleasant to shoot
I was able to take a nice antelope at 110 yds this year so far with it here in Montana

Easy 1 hand stuff recoil is comparable to 357 mag 4". my 13 and 14 year olds shoot it. Im loading faster burning powders to accommodate the shorter barrel but even w factory rifle that size case is very managable.

good luck in your pursuit of the hh addiction
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